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where your focus goes your energy flows, coming back with grace with designer + founder hayley paige

Julia Salvia Episode 38

in today's episode, we connect with the lovely hayley paige about her journey of having her dream career taken away and how she built it all back up with grace + grit.

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Julia Salvia:

Are you ready to love yourself more? The very first immersive self love experience, at least that I've ever seen, is coming to New Jersey hosted by yours truly. This event is called Bloom and it's happening in Long Branch, New Jersey on September 5th. And I am so excited to Invite you to be a part of this amazing experience. There's going to be so much happening here. I'm gonna leave details in the description, in the show notes, all that good stuff, so you can actually see who's going to be a part of it. But we're gonna have brands like tart brands like Maybelline, we're going to have Eva, NYC. carry on thrive cosmetics, all of that's going to be in your goodie bag. And that's of course, not all that you're going to get out of this event. You're going to take home this goodie bag with you, but at the actual event, we're going to have some amazing local businesses, including willow and Jade and their pop up hair bar. We're also going to have a pop up glitter bar by mood aesthetics studio, and there's going to be an amazing vendor shop plus amazing photo ops that of course are flower themed because that makes sense for bloom. I'm super excited to invite you to this. I'm super excited to announce this and I am super, super excited to host the very first self love event like this one. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be wonderful and I absolutely can't wait. for it. And I hope you join us because I would love to bloom with you. It's going to be a night of connection, a night of self discovery, and a night of inspiration and fun. And of course, don't forget to use our code for 10 off your ticket, SLApodcast10. That code is SLApodcast10. Hello, hello. Welcome back to the Self Love Archives podcast. I am your host, Julia Salvia. In today's episode, we are chatting with Miss Haley Page. And the past couple of years for her have been absolutely pivotal in her career as a designer. And I'm super excited to have her here to share that story with you. Hello, Haley. How are you? Welcome to the Self Life Archives podcast. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. How does it feel to actually hear people say

Hayley Paige:

your

Julia Salvia:

name?

Hayley Paige:

It's so special. It honestly does not get old. At this point, I just want to hear my name. All the time.

Julia Salvia:

I can only imagine for, to not be able to really allow anybody to, uh, for anybody to be able to have the opportunity, um, like the opportunity to just call you the name that you were born with is just such a wild and unique thing to experience in this, this book of your life. So I can't even imagine what that feels like. What? What does it feel like to all of a sudden have something that was just, just yours very easily? Yours at birth. It's on, I'm assuming it's on your birth certificate, you know, that's what you were called for your whole life. Like, what does it feel like to have this thing that really, there was no question that it wasn't yours, right? To then not be able to have that ability to even be called that anymore.

Hayley Paige:

It's definitely a unique journey, but I tried not to focus on it too much because a lot was happening at the same time, you know, it wasn't just my name, you know, it was also, I was unable to practice my chosen trade and then, uh, I couldn't access the community that I had built on Instagram and the way I was most accustomed to. And so I think when it rains, it pours, you know, and, um, For some reason I decided that it was probably better for me not to hyper focus on what I couldn't do as opposed to okay, well, what can I do because where your focus goes energy flows and so of course not that it was like out of sight out of mind, but I kind of purposefully purposefully put myself in a position to just deal with it. Um, I think that was healthier and then now that i'm on the other side I actually feel like I can go back and be like, yeah, that was That was, that was real tough, you know, and very unusual, and I think even with something like health, you know, we take these things for granted, and something like my name, which I assumed, you know, I'd always have, at one point I didn't, you know, so it's just the ebbs and flows of life, for sure, but I try not to dwell.

Julia Salvia:

Yeah, of course, it's like the mentality of like the glass half full rather than half empty, for sure. And for anyone that is listening that isn't familiar with Haley's story, I am going to let her tell it to you and what has transpired over the course of the past couple of years. It really just feels like yesterday that I learned about your story and just how inspiring your journey has been ever since this really, this like area of, of time in your life that was just such a juxtaposition between. not having the opportunity to call yourself by your name that you've had for your whole life, to also having the opportunity to create yourself into anything and whomever you want to be. So I'd love for you to share that story with any, with everybody so that we can connect the dots here.

Hayley Paige:

Sure. It's a long story, so I'll try to condense it, but I was a wedding dress designer. I had signed an employment contract. a young age and You know got right to work. I was nervous if I didn't sign the contract as is I would miss out on my big opportunity And then you know years later it was that Contract was interpreted and you know ways that I couldn't imagine and it was Flew into a period of litigation. Um, and I was unable to use my birth name. I could not practice my chosen trade due to a non compete provision. Um, obviously the intellectual property clause was also being factored in. And then I was, I had to hand over what I always felt were my personal social media accounts because Of the handle name, which was my birth name. And more recently, I actually, um, had a very positive settlement from that litigation. And from that, I purchased the rights to my name back as well as, uh, the non compete was lifted. So I'm able to get back into the wedding industry. Um, but going back, you know, to that time period, obviously very challenging. I decided on a creative reinvention. And so, I changed my name publicly to Cheval, which is the French word for horse, and then started a women's shoe collection so that I could still create. And, you know, that was a very positive outcome of a circumstance that wasn't in my favor. And now I'm looking at how to weave the two brands together and get back into the bridal industry or wedding dress world specifically, and use my name now.

Julia Salvia:

Yeah. And I, what a journey, what a journey that is just in such, I'm sure it felt so long for you, but such a short, short time and to go through something like that during a time where we're all going through something so big and challenging like COVID that's wild. So that it led you to where you are today. And, um, it's. It's crazy to even, like, I have so many things, like, going on in my head of, like, what is Hayley going to do next? But we're gonna get, we're gonna get to that. I had this really lovely question for you, and it's the first thing I thought of when I think of you as Hayley Page and you creating a book. Chival as this identity that you would go by for, you know, a couple of years while the litigation was happening and everything was going on, is I just think of the word of courage. And the question is what, what gave you the courage to push forward and to continue and reinvent yourself into Chival.

Hayley Paige:

I feel like when you have a pretty outstanding support system that is holding you accountable, it can be a very progressive thing. And the people around me, you know, while it was pretty shocking and challenging in its own right, a lot of them were helping me come up with solutions and think about, well, what else could you create? Or, you know, how can we make this, um, you know, turn into a circumstance where you have. More control and more ability to create. And that really just created like an interconnectivity for me, and it gave belief in myself as well. So I would say that's probably number one. And then I also tend to operate from a place of gratitude and that, you know, I'm so fortunate in so many ways. And I think, um, you know, you can't stare at your scars forever. You can't stare and live in your problems forever. because it soon becomes your identity. You know, the problem becomes your identity. And at least that's kind of how I looked at it. And, uh, well, my story is definitely part of me, you know, and it's, it's my journey and my footprint. I feel like the living in the now and the destiny going forward is much more of an exciting place to live. And so that was helpful in the mindset shift of it all.

Julia Salvia:

I love that. I, I definitely live by that to a good extent to like taking. All of the things that we have gone through that might be hard, that might be difficult, and really just not using them as a part of our identity. Like, these bad things or these hard things that happen to us are not what make us who we are. It's all of us that make us who we are. It's such an important thing. I think a lot of us really focus on the It's kind of like two sides. Like we either focus so much on, Oh, this happened to me at this time. And we put so much of our time and our energy and our thoughts towards it, that it becomes a part of our identity. Or we kind of do the opposite where we focus so much on what we could have, who we want to be and, um, essentially just, just, and only the positive things that. We don't realize that we're these complex human beings where we need to consider both. You know, when we're looking at this big book or this big archive of our life, it's all encompassing. It's the things that were challenging. It's the things that were hard, but it's also the things that are good. And it's also all of the different facets of who we are from past, present and future. Yes, absolutely. So amazing, and, and I'm like grateful that you had that circle of support around you during that time, because I think it's so important in regards to moving forward into, you know, whatever you want to move forward in, and, and go into, especially when you are going through a challenging time. Um, the story of Haley before page before you became a designer. What led you to creating wedding dresses and being a designer and being

Hayley Paige:

in such a creative space? Well, my grandmother taught me to sew when I was really young and she also always had me in the kitchen baking and just making things with my hands. And I think that early exposure Just made me feel very, um, in, in control and like I was also having fun and it, it brought joy and so I always saw making things for other people to be a real way to communicate from an early age, you know, and even making Christmas presents for my parents when they were a little, you know, like stuff like that, um, just was where I found a natural bit of happiness. And so I carried that. Stayed in touch with that throughout my life. And then I did a design program at Cornell which was really very wholesome. You know, they taught everything from fashion illustration and draping and pattern making to portfolio management and kind of learning some of the business side as well. And that was a very pivotal part of my journey because it gave a lot of validity to Design as a career and then I got right into the design world after college I worked for a high fashion company and then went straight into bridal and My opportunity to you know, ring lead my own collection was really the most exciting opportunity to receive at 25 so my you know, my trajectory in a way is somewhat linear and Um, and that it was, you know, I learned this, I had the passion, you know, I worked hard at it. Um, but I think probably one of the more important aspects is, well actually two things, is that I've put in a lot of hours. So like, thinking about design and fashion and having passion for it and good taste, I think is very important. But like, actually doing the work of, you know, learning sewing and draping and pattern making and how to bring a dress to fruition and what happens when. Your original concept isn't making sense, you know, like going through that process millions of times is really important but then I also think the psychology of it too is really good because I Experienced a pretty massive fall from grace or however, you want to say it you know, I was I had this, you know big big huge brand and then Lost touch with it and went through a really scary litigation. And so I think when you can maintain your enthusiasm for something and going through those setbacks and stay in touch with your craft and your passion Even when you're not allowed to do it. Um, you know, that's really important too. Oh, yeah for

Julia Salvia:

sure. I I feel like that Gives even more strength to the passion and the creativity and the ability To move forward and especially in regards to whatever is next

Hayley Paige:

Absolutely. Sorry, my bulldog was, was grunting. And so I just didn't want her to be in the background. No, you're okay. You're okay. She's like, I am grunting. I'm going to make myself heard on this podcast.

Julia Salvia:

No, you're totally fine. What would you consider throughout your whole life, the biggest part of your own personal self love journey?

Hayley Paige:

The biggest part is probably staying creative and Creating from a place of love it probably sounds so cliche, but I think that when you're producing from a mindset of I Love what I do. I love creating and it comes from a place where this is the way I like to communicate That's kind of led me to from the beginning on my journey and, um, is something that I find to, I find like a lot of grace in, especially when there's things that aren't really going my way, um,

Julia Salvia:

you know, or aren't working out.

Hayley Paige:

So I would say it's that, it's creativity. I love that.

Julia Salvia:

I, I don't think it's cliche. I think it's so true. I, I think creativity can be so many different things too. But I know that even for me personally, like a lot of my career has shifted and a lot of the ways that I'm creative has changed over time. And I know that what was once a creative passion of mine, once it became work, that creativity, the meaning behind it got, you know, it changed a little bit. It was. More work than it was play in a sense. So it's like finding the balance in between that, but also making sure at least for me, I know that not everybody has a passion for what they do or what they want to do in life. But I think in regards to this conversation, knowing like the passion that, that you have for what you're designing and what you're putting out in the world and how you're communicating self love through your creativity and how I, as a, a person, I'm using that creativity through self love now, it can get really tough to still love that creativity and find that love for it in such a genuine way when at the end of the day, we're kind of like, I got to put food on my table. What am I going to, you know, where's that going to come from? Um, so it's like a fine line between being creative at the same time of finding creativity You know the love and the passion for it And yeah, yeah, I don't

Hayley Paige:

really use me on the fence I I definitely don't use. Um, creativity and happiness interchangeably because I do feel like there's a lot of challenges and there's a lot of times where you're maybe not having fun because You know, there is an element of work to it. So I feel like going into the creativity and Going into the self love idea is that You know, you're you're disciplined in that because you will have like those off days, you know And you'll you'll definitely have moments where yeah, you are making money or you're putting food on the table or this is your livelihood um, but I think It's good to kind of separate the idea that it like Self love is this all encompassing, like it's always positive, you know, and it's always going to make you feel good. It's like, no, there's going to be days where you're not going to want to put the work in. There's going to be days where you're not motivated and you feel terrible, you know, or whatever. And so the passion part is important because on your worst days, if you're passionate about it, it's almost, it makes it a little bit easier to get through those days. So yeah, that's kind of how I think about it

Julia Salvia:

that way. No, I completely agree. It's, it's something I always say, like. I think we have this very mixed view on what self love is, and it is not, what I always say, it is not rainbows and butterflies by any means, it is the choice of choosing yourself, it's not a feeling, it's not, it's a constant journey of continuously choosing yourself in all of what life is. Throws at you essentially and it's all the positive, but it's also all of the negative rolled up into one

Hayley Paige:

Yes Absolutely

Julia Salvia:

Two things can be true Yes, and I think that's that is really what Everything that I've I've kind of learned from you and from your story is that two things truly can be true at once and to see you so eloquently and and publicly go through something so challenging, but find so much grace, so much gratitude and kindness from it is incredible to, to watch and to see. And I think it's just proof that there is so much self love in that part of me. Of your journey beyond, beyond even prior to 2020 when the litigation started, even beyond, even before when Haley Page became Haley Page, the designer. Like, I think that there's so much of this, um, duality of just self love and in regards to all the different facets and pieces that self love really can be.

Hayley Paige:

You're so sweet. Thank you for the. Sweet support. Oh my God, of

Julia Salvia:

course. From where you were as a designer prior to 2020 to today as a designer, how do you want to progress forward along with that, you know, with that self love, that gratitude and your full story

Hayley Paige:

behind you? Ford Momentum has been a big concept for me and just kind of putting one foot in front of the other. I think when you go through periods of challenges and setbacks, you learn a lot about yourself and things that you didn't know before. And I think just generalizing it, I, I always like my scenarios better when I approach it with grace and give myself time to respond as opposed to be reactive or in the moment. I always feel better about myself. So I think in carrying forward, you know, I, I try to be in the grace area as much as I can. Um, and then, you know, I think work ethic is really important to me. And I'm very much of, I like working, I like putting a lot of hours in. And so I'm very excited to kind of get back into the depths of focus and my craft and spend a lot of time perfecting and doing. what I love, but learning as much as I go, because I still consider myself a student, even though, you know, I've been in the industry before. You just know there's always going to be surprises and new ways of doing things and better ways. And so staying in that mentality, I think will be important for me.

Julia Salvia:

Yeah, for sure. And what have you learned about yourself?

Hayley Paige:

Oh gosh, well, you know, you learn every day But I'm sure I definitely have learned that I Like being more in the creative seat than I do like being in the business seat not to say that I can't um, You know put on my entrepreneurial cap. I just Have not, I've realized I'm not the best at multitasking. I'm actually much better when I'm able to be focused on something and really get into the supersonic mindset of like, you know, one pair of shoes that I'm designing and the storytelling behind it. You know, or I'm focused on a dress and like, you know, start to finish what that's gonna be. Um, when I feel like I have a hundred emails to answer. Taxes to pay and people to pay like, and I also have to be focused on sales and numbers and metrics, you know, like I actually feel less, um, less like I'm able to really tap into what I'm best at. And so that's been probably 1 of the bigger lessons in starting a small business is that unfortunately, you kind of have to do all of that. You have to be everywhere at once. And that mindset is that. You're never going to be the best at one thing then because you're going to be all over the place, which I think really good entrepreneurs are good at multitasking and they can manage it. Whereas for me, I am much better when I'm able to be in the moment, very focused. And I've actually found that about relationships as well. Is that like, I like when I can really tune out, you know, and like be present at a dinner table, you know, and that can be really hard when you've got A million, you know, distractions and things going on. So that's a big lesson, I think.

Julia Salvia:

Yeah. I love that. I, um, definitely feel that on so many different levels in regards to, um, you know, the entrepreneurial spirit. Sometimes I, I just yearn to only have one thing to focus on and it's, it's sometimes difficult

Hayley Paige:

cause you're like, well, which

Julia Salvia:

one?

Hayley Paige:

Yeah, it's really hard to prioritize as well and that's kind of what you have to start doing is like business is actually, it's managing your attention and knowing where your attention is best served in those little pockets and moments. And then also knowing where to delegate properly so that the job still gets done and you're not gonna have to redo it. But, you know, and I've loved learning that. It's just that if I could pick and choose, you know, I think I'd be a little more focused in design and the branding side of things.

Julia Salvia:

Of course, it's, it's still, it's kind of like you, you wouldn't know if you didn't try anyway. So it's so good that that was something that you've kind of gained and really validated in the process of being an entrepreneur for this moment in time. Yeah. Yeah.

Hayley Paige:

And it's like, it's such a big undertaking and I love the, there's a real sense of freedom, autonomy and responsibility and I appreciate those aspects of it because it's, it's super challenging and it's so demanding. And, um, you know, it's just been a real interesting journey because to put, to go from just really being a designer to like fully entrepreneurship, small business. And then now I'm like, how do I do it all? But it's like, I can't, like, I gotta figure out, yeah, I gotta, you know, run the process. So that's what I'm doing right now.

Julia Salvia:

How would you, how would you describe yourself? Right right now in this moment of time and who who do you want to be? As you move forward into this Ability to truly be Haley page.

Hayley Paige:

I like being a contributor so I guess that just means that I like providing. Um, I think that's where my heart is, you know and whether that's through design or it's through like a You know being a good conversationalist or somebody that can help Somebody else get to a, another phase of their career or inspire. Like, I like adding value to my life and I, that's where I get the most fulfillment. So, you know, it's important when you realize that you're of that nature, you know, like, how do you also find a method of protection and like, you know, you don't want to be taken advantage of, you know, when you definitely do that a lot, but I also just sometimes, you I'm like, I don't really care that much. Not that I, like, I don't want to get taken advantage of again, but I just like, I can't overthink it, you know, and I think most of the time it works out pretty well, so I like putting the effort in and, you know, mostly I like making people feel good. And I know you're not supposed to be a people pleaser, but I definitely feel like that's part of who I am.

Julia Salvia:

Of course. I think there's a, I think there's a difference between being a people pleaser and, Also providing value and helping other people in whatever way that that might be for for us I think there's so many different ways to help other people and I think by just you sharing your story publicly and Talking about it is really helping other people. Oh, thank you. I hope so the other day when you went to the Senate

Hayley Paige:

Yes. The U S Senate. That's great.

Julia Salvia:

Yes. I would love to chat about that and just how that, how that felt to be in such a position to truly help other people and to, to share your story where, um, I think it always, always, always is so helpful, but I think in this case it is leading to something that could be incredibly helpful for so many future designers and creatives.

Hayley Paige:

Yes. Thank you. I was. Honestly, so overwhelmed with honor and getting offered, uh, you know, an invitation to test testify. I like genuinely thinking about the last few years I've had, I've felt so privileged to be able to share my story because I think in a lot of scenarios, you know, if you have signed a non disclosure agreement or something where you're not actually able to speak on your truth and what has happened publicly, that can be really, um, you know, puzzling and scary. And so for me, I was actually able to share. And so, you know, I never anticipated that my story would reach the lengths that it did, but I was so grateful because you hear So many people that have been in scenarios where gosh, you know, I, I can't believe I signed that contract, but I knew that if I didn't, I wasn't going to get the job or I wasn't going to get the opportunity, you know, or I never thought that this could potentially be upheld in court, you know, and so you hear all these stories and that's what really creates this shared trauma, you know, or the shared experience. And so. Senator Warren had actually slid into my DMs, which is like so wild, but like literally a message from her, you know, and she's like, I'd love to invite you to come testify on the non compete ban of the FTC. And I was like, I have been closely following this because of my case, of course, but I also have done a lot of research on it because we do have a nonprofit that is focused on providing legal resources, especially for young creators and entrepreneurs that, you often find themselves in one sided contracts. And so trying to get ahead of that, you know, how do we solve it? It's definitely helpful if it's solved in one sided contracts. Legislation, you know, and it's solved from the top down. And so getting to go do that. It was one thing because it felt very cathartic. I was able to tell my story again, very factually and, you know, just at face value. But it also was meaningful because it's being used as, you know, an extreme reason why, you know, if we do allow these kind of contracts to exist, if we allow it to be written in, even in the slightest way, it, it depends on how it's interpreted. And so if you're kind of allowing it in any facet, it means that you're opening the door for litigation, you're opening, you know, An avenue or like a gateway like I literally think of stranger things, you know It's like you open it and it's open, you know so that in that case It can it can really be scary and it probably would end up hurting more people and also businesses in the long term Versus the short term of businesses. It might actually help which is very minimal So like doing the research on it and then getting to speak on it Was just a A very full circle moment and also to be able to share it being on the other side of litigation Because I think if I was still in litigation It would come with this of, okay, well it's not solved yet for me. Whereas like I actually got the opportunity to solve it through a litigate through a settlement, which I'm so grateful for, but I get to speak, not just as an employee in my testimony, I got to speak also as a business owner, because I do know that it's important to protect your legal, your IP, you know, it's your intellectual property. It's important to protect businesses and corporations as much as it's important to Protect employees. And so it's just like, if we're not going to limit businesses on hiring and turning a profit, why are we limiting employees on working and earning, you know, just like the balance, the math isn't mapping, you know? So I'm just very, very grateful and overjoyed that I was able to be a part of maybe history in that way. So. Never had a thought that that's where I would be, but man, it was exciting.

Julia Salvia:

I think, I mean, I think it was amazing, um, watching back and to everyone that's listening, I am going to link it down in the show notes below in the description below so you can watch it cause it was really such an inspiring, um, I want to call it a speech. No, it felt like that. It was like Speaking today, you know, yeah It really was like a speech and it was it was really so inspiring to hear that and i'm sure that it was inspiring for a lot of um other designers and creatives to hear that that might might have been in the same situation or that might have found themselves Even if it was just in, you know, a, a similar experience. I know that, uh, being a creator myself, I have had so many contracts that have come across that are like, We wanna use your name, image, likeness, and all the above, and we're not gonna pay you for it. And I, it's, uh, It's, it's wild to me how a lot of bigger brands so easily shove that into any contract and, and I guess either assume that the other, other person that they're sending it to, or the person that they want to work with, isn't going to understand the, I don't wanna say severity, but the weight that, that up upholds in that contract, it's very scary that it, it's, it's a lot of, a lot of bigger brands who of course, at, at one, one point and in general trying to protect themselves and, and do what they need to do. And in the grand scheme of, of business and work, um. And livelihood, but with when there's the ability for anybody really to be a creative now that we have this this openness for anybody to create something and and sell something and be able to share it with the world. It's tough because there's a lot of things that maybe we we are not taught that we don't know that we aren't educated on that one. I feel like we should be, of course. Um, In some retrospect, especially now that truly anyone could jump on social media or start creating something, whether they're designing or creating something, selling it on Etsy, maybe, or starting a social media account. We're not getting the right education from, you know, like from teenagers or like adolescents on like how heavy some of the things are when, and when a contract comes across. You know, into your email, and, and it seems like the best opportunity in the world, and it is, but there's this really weighted sentence essentially in it.

Hayley Paige:

Yeah, I know. I just feel like you only know what you know, and it's always good to put, you know, a little bit of checks and balances into your journey. A lot of times I think that's having a good mentor, you know, a good business advisor, having friends that aren't, yes, people around you, you know, just people that know you really well, you know, where your blind spots might be. But best, best way to do it is, you know, tell your story, tell, tell the trials and tribulations so that. Others can, you know, learn what the possibilities could be and ways to avoid, you know, I always say it's good to learn from other people so that you don't have to go through what they go through. Even though ultimately it is good for you to go through your own challenges and hards in life, you know, um, still is, it's good to tell the story. So good for you for having lots of inspiring stories on your platform.

Julia Salvia:

Thanks. I, I definitely, I definitely think that. And I think that, That speech that you've provided to the Senate is really going to make a difference in regards to how we look at contracts as entrepreneurs, as creatives, as small business, but also how our, our government and legal system really moves forward with, you know, AI and everything that's technologically, you know, coming up in this world and how, you know, work looks in this world to all of us. Um,

Hayley Paige:

yeah.

Julia Salvia:

Cause I think even to touch on what you mentioned before in the, in the grand scheme of, of everything that was spoken about, just the having kind of like this stop point at creating and that stop point of being able to expand your livelihood or make more money doing something that you're, that you love, that you're passionate about, that you're good at. There, there shouldn't, there shouldn't be that. You should have the ability to kind of. Run wild with it.

Hayley Paige:

Run amok.

Julia Salvia:

Well, thank you Haley so so much for being here and and sharing your story with me. I really really appreciate sharing your story with all of us. It means the absolute world to me. Is there anything else that you want? Of course! Is there anything else that you want to add to the conversation that you'd like to leave everybody with?

Hayley Paige:

Well, we do have our nonprofit, A Girl You Might Know Foundation, and we're really set up to provide resources. So, you know, if your audience is looking for support in whatever they're building, whether they're, you know, an entrepreneur or just looking to sign a very decent contract, you know, we try to help, um, provide legal, free or pro bono resources or recommendations. And then we also have a grant. That you can apply for. Um, we have one, one winner annually. And usually it's a creator of some sort. So we'll be opening applications on that in September. And then selecting in December. Um, awarding in January. So that, and then, you know, hoping to get back into the, the women's, you know, wedding dress space. And in the interim we've got all these fun sparkly shoes. So, you know, that's, that's me. That's where I am these days. Laughs.

Julia Salvia:

I love it. I absolutely cannot wait to see what is up next for Haley Page and all the designs and all the exciting things to come. So thank you so much again for being here and um, before we go, please share your most important socials and where everybody can find you.

Hayley Paige:

Oh, for sure. Um, I have at Miss Haley Page, which is my Instagram and Instagram Yippee! That one, that one has been through a journey. Um, and then I also have all the glitters on the gram and then my shoes are mainly on at sheishaval and then we've got at agirlyoumightknowfoundation and then sheishaval. com to shop shoes. So that's what's cooking these days but we're hopefully going to be trying to make a bigger splash on TikTok and YouTube. You know, there's just so many platforms these days, so. Yeah, I guess you gotta show up on everything. I don't know. I know. I always just say, like, which one are you looking for? I don't know. Just Google my name. You'll find them all. They'll be there. so much. Like, it's so overwhelming because you definitely, you know, as if you're a creator, you're doing podcasts or you're on a media trajectory, you know, it can, you can feel like you're overthinking it, you know, and like how much content do I need to put out and how often do I need to be showing up and It's a lot of work, so I commend everyone that does it.

Julia Salvia:

I'm so excited to follow up and see where you are in like a year or two in, you know, in the design space and see what you're up

Hayley Paige:

to. I'd love that. We'll circle back. Thank you for having me. It was so sweet to have this conversation.

Julia Salvia:

Of course! Hi friends! Thank you so much for tuning into this week's episode with Ms. Haley Page. This episode was truly a reminder that we just need to keep moving forward with grace. If you are interested in purchasing tickets or learning more about Bloom, an immersive self love experience, coming to Long Branch, New Jersey September 5th. Make sure to check the description down below so you can learn more, and don't forget to use the code. SLA Podcast 10 for 10 off your ticket. See you there!

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