what is generational trauma? + how we can heal through self-awareness + astrology

generational trauma has been a topic i’m sure you’ve heard about.

it’s also been one i’ve been doing more research and work on for my own healing journey ever since reading mark wolynn’s book: it didn’t start with you.

It’s been truly eye opening, especially when we bring astrology into the mix to help us add context and better understand the very shadow-like part of our journeys. 

in this episode, we're starting the conversation around generational trauma: what it is, how to work with it, + bringing astrology in the mix to help us understand ourselves even deeper.

the astrology podcast with aerie fogel on generation trauma through astrology

youtube video on dr. frances yahia talking about the shadow of our moon signs

book with my friend + astrologer, lezette marie

connect with julia on instagram @beautybyjulia + tik tok @juliasalvia

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Transcript

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Generational trauma. We all have it, even if we don't realize that we have it. In today's episode, we're going to be talking about generational trauma, a topic I am sure you have heard about. But what exactly does that mean? How does this affect our self love journey? And how can we heal our generational trauma? Hello and welcome back to the Self Love Archives. I am your host, Julia Salvia. I am not just your host, I'm your self love bestie, your self love guide, your self love big sister. And you're in the right place because we have a juicy episode today talking about generational trauma. I have definitely ended up on generational trauma TikTok once or twice before and it has taken me on a wild, wild ride for the better, for the better. Before we get into today's episode, I have made the very tough decision to decide to post every other Sunday rather than every single Sunday. Taking on the Self Love Archives podcast and starting the Self Love Archives was Something that I've been trying and wanting to do for such a long time, but I think my biggest fear in doing it was kind of, so many things, but one of them was, am I going to have enough time for this? As much as I have prioritized the self love archives, I, I want to be ahead, and I keep falling behind. I keep feeling like I'm falling behind. And maybe you guys haven't noticed, but there have been a couple of weekends where I haven't posted an episode. And mainly it's because I either procrastinate or it just gets so close to the date where there are some. technological issues or there are issues with space on my computer or on my phone to actually get these episodes to you guys. And I really wanted to be ahead before I launched everything, but it just didn't happen that way. And it's totally okay. So without me over explaining everything, I've decided to from this point post every other Sunday, you guys will still see an episode next week, which I believe is the, 11th. So you'll still see an episode next week on the 11th of February at 12 o'clock eastern time, and then I will be posting every other Sunday. So you'll see an episode on the 11th, and then the next episode after that will be on the 25th. Do not worry, do not fret, because as I am doing the podcast episodes that are going live every other Sunday, I'm going to be working super hard behind the scenes to finally catch everything up so that we can go back to having episodes every single Sunday. I'm a one woman show here, and I want to work with. Myself to make the self love archives everything that it's intended to be so I'm not trying to work against myself. So I'm gonna give myself a little bit more time to get out the episodes, create all of the fun little videos for social. And work on some other really exciting things behind the scenes. So I just wanted to mention that to you guys and just let you know that I appreciate you so much for being here and listening. And hopefully you won't be too sad that we are moving to every other Sunday. For now. Just for now. Okay, let's get into the episode. Generational trauma. The words are used interchangeably, but intergenerational trauma is really what we're chatting about. I think generational trauma, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the way that I've gathered it from the research, the books, and being on generational trauma TikTok from, uh, that I have learned is that The trauma that I experience myself is going to be a generational trauma, but the trauma that I experience, or the way that I would experience generational trauma from my parents, my grandparents, my ancestors is called intergenerational trauma. Think of intergenerational trauma like your DNA. Like how we inherit traits from our parents and our grandparents. Like how if your Mom had blue eyes, you inherited her blue eyes, but your dad may have had brown eyes, so your brother or your sister has your dad's eyes. Or how maybe one of you has green eyes, and neither of your parents have green eyes, but your grandparents have green eyes. Generational trauma gets inherited in a similar way, just like our physical DNA. Except it's mental, it's emotional, it's the ones we really can't see when a baby is born or when a baby is growing up. We can't really see how intergenerational trauma is going to affect that baby or that person. So We all know what trauma is and what trauma can do to our bodies. It can make our bodies go in survival mode. It can make our bodies feel more stressed with high stress levels, anxiety, depression. Generational trauma or intergenerational trauma can also do the same to our bodies, but it's a little bit different. Trauma is where we are experiencing something first hand. Like that something is actually happening to us or we're experiencing a trauma in our own lives. Intergenerational trauma doesn't necessarily happen. In our lives, as it had in our parents lives, or our grandparents lives, or our ancestors lives. We take on that trauma that has happened in our parents, our grandparents, or our ancestors lives. We take on those traumas that they have been through or have gone through. My understanding of intergenerational trauma started when I read this really amazing book. The book is called It Didn't Start With You, How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are and How to End the Cycle. And the book is by Mark Wolyn. This book was so incredibly insightful. I don't even think I thought about Generational trauma in this way before or how it would have an effect on my life or our lives. I think it just didn't even cross my mind. You know, I'm over here thinking that everything I'm inheriting from my, from my parents, from my grandparents and so on and so forth, I'm inheriting just my mom's legs and my mom's nose, but I'm inheriting my grandma's eyes and my dad's hair and my dad's coloring. Like, I'm inheriting these physical traits, but we're not acknowledging that we could be inheriting so much more than that. From something as simple as disliking a certain kind of flavor to Experiencing and responding in a similar way that maybe our grandparents had to respond to because they were living in a different time period. So Mark Wolyn in this book explains that these unexplained symptoms are things that we've inherited, like our fears, our anxieties, our obsessive thoughts. And sometimes we're sitting here and we're asking ourselves why do I feel this way? Why am I fearful of this thing or why do I dislike something so much? Like where does this even come from?And I think we just chuck it up to be, oh, just because, just because. I don't like cilantro just because. It's, it's, it's, it tastes soapy to me. But have you ever stopped and thought, well, why? Why don't you like to go outside when it's super cold? Why does it give you anxiety to step foot outside when it's really, really cold outside? Or why have you had these obsessive thoughts about Wanting to harm yourself. Before we move on into this episode, we are going to talk about quite a few things along with trauma. I'm sorry, I should have mentioned this in the beginning of the episode. Generational trauma and trauma in general is a really tough subject. We've been talking about some really tough things. I think next week we're going to have to lighten the episode a little bit. But I actually have an idea for next week's episode. I do plan on talking about the love languages. It's one of my favorite favorite things to come back around and talk about Around valentine's day and the season of love, which is also my birthday season, by the way all of february is my birthday this year. It is pisces season all of february Sorry aquarius. I love you to death, but it is pisces season all of february even though I have a lot of aquarius in my chart so It's fine. I do turn 30 this year, which is crazy to absolutely think. I'm super excited about turning 30. But I'm going to have a birthday episode on the 25th, so look out for that episode. But next week, so I guess the next two episodes within February are going to be a lot more exciting and not so deep. Maybe, I mean, I get deep in all the episodes, but just wanted to stop for a second and let you guys know that today's episode is going to be one of those deeper episodes. So if you need to pause and take a moment for yourself, or if you need to come back to this episode, when you feel like you are in a more healed space, please do not hesitate to do that. But I love ya, and I promise we'll be back next week on the 11th with a little bit lighter of an episode talking about the love languages. But anyways, let's get back into it. So we think that these symptoms that we're having These anxieties, these fears, these dislikes, these responses that we're having, we think that these unexplained symptoms are ours. We think that these are our problem. That we started them. And that is not necessarily, if at all, the case. So to understand how generational trauma works, I have two stories from this book that I want to share with you. One is actually a scientific. Lab thing. I am so far out of college at this point that a lot of the things I say are so intelligent and then sometimes I just go dumb for five seconds. And that was one of those moments. But one of those stories is this study. And the study was done on rats. Where they took generation one of two grandparents, let's say, just to make it easy to understand the story. And they created this environment for these two rats that made them dislike the smell of cherry blossoms. Or dislike cherry blossoms altogether. They gave them and put them in a very traumatic situation in regards to cherry blossoms. So these two rats went on to then have their offspring, who we'll call the parents. The parents were not put in this traumatic situation with the cherry blossom. But when put into a situation with cherry blossom, they immediately disliked it. Their response to the cherry blossoms was very similar to that of the grandparents response to the cherry blossoms when they were in the traumatic situation. Now these parents went on to then have their offspring, who we'll call the children. The children were not given any traumatic experience with cherry blossom. But when they were introduced to the smell or the taste or the environment of the cherry blossom, they disliked it, extremely disliked it, and that's kind of how generational trauma works. There's this trauma that happens generationally to our ancestors or grandparents or our parents and the way that we respond to a situation that is Similar to that of the traumatic event that our ancestors experienced is the generational or the intergenerational trauma. Another example is a very tough one. I could barely, I could barely read the book, honestly, as I was listening to this one, but it is a really great example of how these unexplainable symptoms that we're experiencing may have to do with intergenerational trauma. This girl had come into the therapist or psychologist's office and she had been experiencing the feelings surrounding wanting to kill herself. And she didn't understand why. There was no reason why. She lived a great life. She was surrounded by great people, but really couldn't understand why she didn't want to be on this earth. After doing a little bit of digging, the psychologist found a little bit more information about how this girl wanted to end her life. She very specifically had this urge to burn herself alive. After looking into her ancestors, more specifically her grandmother, her grandmother's entire family were killed in the Holocaust by being burned alive. So you can see how this trauma that her grandmother had experienced, the fears and the responses and the, mental health illnesses surrounding that trauma were passed down to her. Now this is not the case in every single case. I think we can look at this intergenerational trauma That's being passed down in the same way that we are looking at maybe our siblings for example I'll use me and my siblings as the example. I am short We have no idea why but I'm short I'm 5'3, 5'4 all of my siblings my two sisters both younger than me are 5'6 so We are very Different on, you know, our heights, even our features are different. I have a different nose than all of my siblings. I have a lot darker features than all of my siblings. So in saying that, you know, one sibling could have blue eyes, the other could have green and the other two could have brown. There are different ways that this generational trauma is inter, I'm using them interchangeably, but there are different ways that intergenerational trauma can be passed down. It's almost as if your sisters getting one part of the story and maybe you and your brother share a part of the story. the case of the rats, maybe the children offspring, two of the four rats that were the children offspring of the parents, are experiencing this extreme hatred and this extreme response towards cherry blossoms, but the other two maybe not at all. So this process is called epigenetics. I am not a scientist, so please, Check yourself, check, check the info, but I'm sharing with you to the best of my knowledge. But the epigenetics is basically the study of all of this. So how the response is different in our brain. Programming. So our brain is being reprogrammed because of this trauma to respond differently in certain or different types of situations. So it's kind of like, the trauma happens and there's a chemical change in our DNA from that trauma happening, which then changes how our genes function. Essentially making us become more sensitive or more reactive in certain situations that are similar to that trauma. A little piece of intergenerational trauma that I pieced together myself, or I'm making a good assumption of. I have always been really wary and uncomfortable in hospitals. There had been nothing that had ever happened to me in my life for me to directly correlate that pit in my stomach or that nervous feeling or that uncomfortable feeling that I got when I walked into a hospital. I can't think of one experience that made that, made that make sense to me. After doing a little bit of digging, first one to asking my mom, you know, about my birth story. Like, was it traumatic? Was there anything? That was different about that birth story and there really wasn't I was born quite early But there was nothing traumatic Necessarily or at least that I know of at this point in regards to my birth story and that was really Besides that was really one of the very few times I had ever been in a hospital I noticed as I got older and was a lot more self aware of myself, but also aware of the people around me that my dad also very much hated hospitals, hated being in them, hated being at them, hated going to them very, very strongly. Like this just very, very obvious. Hatred for it and uncomfortableness for being in a hospital. When I got older, I learned about my grandmother, my dad's mother, who had spent a lot of her life, her adult life, in hospitals. She had very serious depression and a lot of other issues that kept her in the hospital for long periods of time. So understanding that I could see why I would have panic attacks when I would go into a hospital. When I was a lot younger, I had an experience when I was forcibly put into a hospital for my safety. And being put in that situation, essentially being put on a suicide watch in a hospital, Oh, I have never, I've actually, I don't think I've ever talked about this. Um, it's almost like I'm piecing to the puzzle, like putting the pieces of the puzzle together right now as we speak. I had really only ever been at the hospital at that point. I was, I was 15. I had only ever been at the hospital when I was born, when my little sister was born to go see my mom at the hospital. And, honestly, any other time that I had been there, I completely went over my head, I don't remember. And it wasn't because I was in the hospital, it was because maybe I was going to visit someone or going to see someone, but none that I particularly remember. When I was around 15 or 16, I was taken to the hospital and put under suicide watch. Not sure if they have a specific name for that at this point, but that's what I called it That's what I remember calling it. It was pretty late, I believe at night around possibly dinnertime and The entire situation at the end of the day was an extreme misunderstanding but so much so that I was I was extremely embarrassed to say what really happened. I think even if I were to explain what had happened, I would still have been taken to the hospital. But I was taken to the hospital, um, by ambulance and I sat in this open hospital room for what felt like forever. With nothing. No phone, no paper, no games, no nothing. Absolutely nothing. And I could only, I'm getting like uncomfortable and very emotional even talking about it because I could almost picture myself as my grandmother right now. I could only imagine what do you do with yourself in a hospital. when you have, have no one or nothing around you. My parents, I don't believe, I don't know, I'm not sure the, the process or at what point, what happened when, I just remember like, holding myself and like, rocking myself like a crazy person. Because, I was, like, locked in this room. They wouldn't give me anything to write with or color with because of safety reasons. And no one would talk to me. I don't remember my parents being around. I wasn't sure what was happening or what was going on. I just knew that I was stuck in this room with nothing to do except for listen to my thoughts. And basically go insane. I basically went insane for Those couple of hours that I was there. I can only think that this is a response to a generational trauma. Also then on top of that, creating my own trauma in my life. It pains me a little bit too because as my dad got closer to the last, you know, couple of weeks of his life, he spent a lot of that in a hospital. And I knew. I was very fully aware of the generational trauma at this point. I was fully aware of why he hated hospitals so much, and why they made him so uncomfortable, and why he didn't want to be there. And it hurts so much to think about. You know how they say when you are so self aware, and when you are doing the work, and when you are doing the shadow work, and when you are understanding. Everything and everyone around you. It, it's scary to be so aware. It's scary to be so alive. It's scary to have that kind of knowledge and that kind of recognition and self awareness. So knowing that, it's a really, it's a really tough thing for me to think about it like that. But, I feel strong knowing what I know now about that generational trauma, so that as I move forward in my own life, I can break that cycle or maybe even recognize it for those that come after me, like my kids, if I have kids one day. When it comes to generational trauma and actually healing this generational trauma, the first and foremost biggest thing is recognizing generational trauma, understanding what generational trauma is, and possibly even pinpointing what it may be. I know that sometimes we are not able to speak with our ancestors or our parents or our grandparents about what they have gone through. I feel I'm lucky that I was able to put some of the pieces together, but I feel stuck in a lot of ways, myself, because my dad's parents aren't here anymore, my dad isn't here anymore, my dad didn't have any siblings, so I feel stuck in some ways in trying to figure out and uncover More of an understanding of their lives and what his life was like, and what my grandparents lives were like. So all we can do is go off of what we know. And off of information that we can try to piece together and understand ourselves. Like something as big as something like, why does it make me so uncomfortable to walk through a hospital? This self awareness of our generational traumas can also show up as understanding patterns that maybe we have gone through. The easiest pattern that I, I feel we've seen a lot of in movies and TV shows is we see this guy who is an alcoholic. And you'll see like a flashback to him as a kid and he has a father who is an alcoholic. And then maybe even farther than that you'll see a flashback of the father whose father, so the grandfather, is also an alcoholic. And how maybe those Traumas are not passed down directly to us in that way. But maybe we're responding in the same way to a situation or an experience that is similar to the trauma that our ancestors had experienced. So when we feel like we're stuck, whether we can't have this type of open conversation with our grandparents, if they're still here with us or our parents, if they're still here with us, hopefully we can have an open conversation with someone within our family to be able to kind of piece the pieces of our stories and our puzzles together. But if not, whether that's because we can't or don't feel comfortable to have that conversation or we don't have those people in our lives to have that conversation, I think that using astrology could be a really amazing tool to help us not only understand who we are, but to help us contextually bring that entire story together. Astrology basically gives us the context. The context that we're missing. It's, it's like we're trying to piece together a puzzle and we have all of the outer layers of the puzzle but we're missing some of the pieces in the center. Or maybe we have a bunch of the pieces in the center of the puzzle and I don't know who starts a puzzle by starting with the middle of the puzzle. Bless your soul. I feel like you're making it so much harder for yourself. But I know I always start off with the foundation, which is doing all the end pieces. It's the easiest way to start a puzzle. But maybe we have a lot of the inner Part of the puzzle. And maybe we do have some of the foundational pieces there, like the outer edge, but we're missing some of those, and astrology can help us create the context, or give us the pieces to the puzzle, the foundational pieces of the puzzle that we may be missing. Now, astrology, as you know, listening to this podcast, because I know we are smart, I know we are intelligent, I know we are open to all things, astrology is a study of patterns. So, we can take patterns from years and years ago and understand what was happening. generationally, then to help us understand what could be, what could we be experiencing now generationally. I was listening to this really amazing podcast. It's called The Astrology Podcast with, I believe, Chris Brennan. And he did a podcast with Aerin Fagel. It's either Fagel or Fogel, I think it's Fogel, not great with my names today. But it is a long podcast, but it is so incredibly informational. It is a little bit more advanced on all of the astrology, but. Most of the beginning of the podcast really talks about generational trauma and how to use it to kind of connect the pieces with our psychology and how we can fill in, you know, find all those little puzzle pieces to help us fill in the answers. Now our astrology birth charts are a snapshot of the sky when we were born. But we have experienced life completely differently than everyone else. So a lot of the questions that I get with astrology or a lot of what I've seen, you know, people, people that are skeptic of astrology or skeptics of astrology, right? The first curious question is, What if someone has the same birth chart as you? Well, first of all, that is so incredibly rare. So incredibly rare. You had to have been, like, basically born at the same time, in the same place, on the same day, at the same minute, possibly even second. Even twins. Twins have different birth charts. Even if they're born within, you know, a couple of minutes of each other, or right after each other, or at the exact same time, even if their birth charts are essentially the same, they still experience life completely differently from the other. They still inherit different things, even if they are identical twins. There are still some slight differences. In their DNA and their genes. But they are two different human beings walking this earth, right? So they're not always going to be at the same place at the same time experiencing the same things from the same people. They're going to be in different classes. They're going to be in different situations. They're going to experience things differently. I had the opportunity once actually to meet someone. It was right after I had broken up with my ex boyfriend, found out he was cheating on me, did some little, like, put on my FBI cap. That is a great story, by the way. I was so proud of it. It was, it was a really great moment for me because it just, it, I skyrocketed after that. It was. Best thing that ever happened to me. But after I found that out and we had broken up, it was maybe a couple of weeks later and I had gone on my very first date. This is beginning of COVID and I met this guy I had just been getting into astrology a little bit more and he had literally the same birth chart as me and there were definitely some heavy differences because He was actually born the day before me. So I was born on the 28th of February at night and he was born on the 27th of February at night. So while there were striking similarities in our birth chart, and I say that with such insane ness and craziness because I just, I think it's very crazy to meet someone who lived a completely different life than you. But it's just absolutely crazy that someone who lived a completely different walk of life was, I was able to have a conversation with them and talk to them. Our charts were so similar. It was basically like dating myself, honestly. And I can't say that I liked it. The biggest difference in our astrology charts were our rising signs. So I'm a Virgo rising, he was a Gemini rising. And if you are familiar with astrology, then you know that our rising signs in whole sign astrology kind of start, like, kick off our astrology chart. Our rising sign sits in our first house and We just kind of go down the line. So if you're a Virgo rising like myself, you'll have Virgo in the first house. The next sign after Virgo is Libra. Libra in the second house, Scorpio in the third house, Sagittarius in the fourth house, so on and so forth. So his chart was a little bit different because he had a Gemini rising, which means that his first house was in Gemini, his second house was in Cancer, his third house was in Leo, fourth house was in Virgo, and so on and so forth. So if you're born the same year. And possibly on the same day, or the day before, or the day after. So if someone was born on, the year that I was born was not a leap year, so, if someone was born on the 27th of February, on the 28th, or on March 1st, we could have, of 1994, we could have really similar birth charts. But what really changes the birth chart is the rising sign. But what does not change, so quickly in astrology, are the luminaries or the planets in our chart. So, because he was also born at night, and I was also born at night, a lot of our placements were very similar. So for example, we both had Mercury, the planet of communication, in Aquarius, so that gives us this very Looking forward type of communication. This very innovative type of communication. Mine sits in my sixth house of routines and day to day life and health. So when it comes to my routines or when it comes to my day to day life or the way that I take care of my health, it's going to be very innovative. It's going to be very different. It's very much going to be, I don't want to do what everybody else is doing. But for him, that placement is going to fall in a completely different part of his chart. He's going to have Aquarius in his ninth house of education and travel. So he's going to exude that type of personality in regards to how he communicates in regards to education and travel. So with that being said, you could see how So a lot of the things were very similar. So the way that we communicated because we both had Mars and Aquarius and at a very close degree was very similar. So I felt like I was texting myself sometimes and it was very interesting because I, I have a very specific way that I text people and it was mimicked. Or it felt that way, that he was like mimicking the way that I text him by texting me. So I double text, I use a lot of periods and commas and dashes and very good grammar in my text messages. Um, the way that I say things usually comes off like, I feel, I think, um, very Cute, I guess you could say. So, there were just a lot of similarities, it was so interesting to get to know someone who has such a similar birth chart to mine, but where there are also so many differences. Because when I say that even twins, in this case. Long story short, how twins can even have completely different experiences within their birth charts, which is the same thing that goes for generational trauma and how that can show up in our lives. It can be so, so different. our charts are not going to tell us exactly what we're going to go through in life because that's based on our experience. But we can use our birth charts to help us understand where those challenges may be by looking at patterns or themes, and If we have the ability to, we can even look at the similarities between the chart that I have in comparison to maybe my siblings. Or we can look at the similarities between someone who has very similar placements to us. So if we all have Scorpio's Sun sitting at the same degree. So it does get a little bit more complicated When we're using astrology to maybe more specifically understand our generational traumas or our challenges in life, we can definitely overall use astrology to understand ourselves a little bit more and provide some context maybe to things that we weren't able to piece together. Aerin Fogel works with a lot of people on this specific topic. I will honestly, as I was listening to this podcast, I even thought like, let me book a session with her because this would be so interesting to see what she sees. If that's even a thing, um, if it, if it works that way for her, I'm not sure if we, we can directly book sessions with her, and now I, now I kind of want to go figure that out. But, she said something that was so interesting, like, A lot of people come to her and they have this self awareness, they have this knowledge, they've done the work. They are understanding of their traumas or their pain points or why they do this and what is the trigger that they're experiencing. But their question is, well, what do I do now? Now that I know all of this, now that I know what my traumas are, my, and I have the self awareness that I truly need, which is the very first step in Honestly, our self love journey, but in general, honestly in our self love journey, but in regards to our traumas and our triggers and our shadow work, the self awareness is the biggest part of it. It's being aware, it's saying, I recognize this, I'm seeing a pattern, I understand what's happening here. Well, now I have all this information, what do I do now with all of it? The way she describes it is how astrology is answering that question because it provides a lot more context. So astrology is not telling you what happened, but it's providing some information to you, um, some connection or conjunction or square or whatever's happening in your chart to give you more information to work on and work through. Or maybe how to work on it or how to work through it. I think that would be a really interesting episode to go beyond that self awareness and really answer that question, like, what do I do now with it? And if I can book a session with Erin, I definitely think I'm going to and we're going to chat about it. I think that'd be really, really freaking cool. Really cool. after looking into Using astrology to help heal generational trauma, or intergenerational trauma. I found a video that was literally viewed by like 500 people. And it is a video by Dr. Francis Yahia. Hopefully saying the name correct. I hate saying people's names incorrectly. But she was talking about how there is a shadow side to all of our moons and the video that she had shared that I saw, which I will link below, it is a bit harsh, more so, I wouldn't say harsh, but very blunt and very forward and very finite, which I don't believe that astrology could be. So finite like that Because there are so many different placements and conjunctions that could happen in our birth charts that really need to be taken into consideration But she was talking about the shadow side of our moon sign and how wherever your moon is there is a shadow side to That moon sign and she talked about how she had a cancer moon and that could mean that we That those of us that attract cancer moons, and she did state that this is like the extremist Option essentially that if we have a cancer moon that That if you are someone that has a cancer moon you may experience Being attracted to or being around a lot of people who are very childish or very child like. That if you have an Aries moon that you may be surrounded by or in relationship with people who have experienced or you may be the one experiencing domestic violence. That was an interesting point to me Because Nick, my boyfriend, has an Aries moon, my dad has an Aries moon, and my sister's boyfriend has an Aries moon. The similarity is wild. And then I also know someone else that has an Aries moon. And that theme of domestic violence is a huge topic within you know, all, all of these people that have this Aries moon, whether it has directly happened to that person who has an Aries moon or they're, it's indirectly happened to them or it's part of their generational trauma. Or in the case with myself and my boyfriend, I'm the one that has experienced, um, domestic violence. So, um, you So crazy, so interesting. She went on to actually explain all of the extreme situations of potential generational or relationship trauma that you may be experiencing with that shadow side of your moon. And she did mention my moon, which is Libra. And Pinpointed, like hit the nail on the head and said that there could be a lot of distrust or mistrust and a lot of lying and dishonesty and that could lead to people pleasing and I'm just sitting there like watching this little video with like 500 views like what? So, let me tell you, sometimes videos just don't get into the hands that they're supposed to be in and people don't see it. It's so true. It's so true. I think it was a little harsh and a little bit finite, and I think that there's a lot of other things to consider, including our experiences in life, but also including how the rest of our chart affects us. Ourselves, but I found it very interesting with just the knowledge that I know about Specifically, the Aries moon sign because I do know such a great handful of people, who have an Aries moon, but also with my own Libra moon and kind of taking in that information and seeing if there is any truth to it. As I always say, and as a lot of us say, if there is something that comes up in a meditation, an affirmation, this podcast, or a book, or online, or scrolling on TikTok, if it does not align, If it does not feel right, if it doesn't spark anything in you, leave it. Just leave it. Even if you're reading, like, a horoscope, for example. If it doesn't, you know, make sense to you, maybe your chart's wrong. Maybe you're looking at the wrong one. Because I always say, look at your rising sign, not your sun sign. But if it doesn't resonate with you, leave it. Let it go. I guess the question that remains, where do we go from here? How do we work on healing this generational trauma? Well, it's recognizing that it exists, that self awareness of it. Reading a book like Mark Wolyn's book I, I refer to his book all the time. It is such an insightful book and really helps you understand the psychology and the story behind why he researched this specific topic and how he learned more about it. I think that is a beautiful place to start. So you can understand epigenetics, you can understand generational trauma from a more psychology perspective, and then dive in a little bit deeper to really understand the context. So it's like, the book is more of the, puzzle pieces. So as you're reading this book and understanding it more, maybe you're reaching out to your grandparents or your parents or looking more at your lineage or really sitting with yourself and asking, is there anything that I'm experiencing in my life right now or that I have experienced in my life right now that really doesn't have an explanation? Are there any fears and deep rooted anxieties that I have, or obsessive thinking that I have, that doesn't have any explained reason. Like, it's unexplainable. I don't understand why I have such a deep hate and uncomfortableness with doing this thing, or being in this space, or why do I react this way to Certain people or certain things or within certain situations because I've never, nothing has ever happened to me before specifically that I can, where I have an actual explanation for what is happening. And that's where that deeper work starts. It's asking questions, not just to yourself, but to those around you, to your ancestors, to your family, your cousins, your siblings, your parents, your grandparents, if you can. I'm gonna follow up with you guys about The astrology, or if you're very curious to know, follow up with me. After I am done filming this episode, I'm going to look into, see if I can work with Aerin Fogal and really understand the specific placements and specific signs. Maybe past the one that Dr. Francis Yehia talked about, like the shadow of the moon. I think that overall, looking at our charts, it could truly be anything. I know for me, I always look at Chiron, to see where my pain and my healing is and where that sits for me. I look to my moon to see where I really put a lot of emotional, a lot of my emotional self. Like, where do I put that into? My experience or my life day to day in regards to Mars where does a lot of my frustration stem from and where does a lot of it sit in regards to Saturn where does Saturn sit in my chart and I think Saturn is such a big one but where does Saturn sit in my chart and and where is it asking me to like set boundaries and be more disciplined in my life. I did an episode about Saturn and Being in my Saturn return right now a couple of episodes ago So make sure to go and check that out to learn a little bit more about Saturn But even with some of the luminaries that may be More helpful like Venus or the Sun or Mercury Where are these creating a pattern. We ask questions. We work on ourselves. We research a little bit more to understand ourselves better. Whether that's through psychology, through astrology, or through talking with our loved ones, our family, our ancestors. And I think that's a really great place to start. Down below, I am going to put one of my absolute favorite astrologers, the one that I personally go to. She's one of my really good friends. We had her on the podcast a couple of episodes ago, Lezette Marie. She's amazing. I'm gonna put her information down below so you can go and check her out and have a call with her. She does this really amazing call. Yearly, you can do it at any part of the year and she'll do kind of like a foreshadowing of the next year and and what's to come And I think it's super super insightful. She'll give you some dates to look out for And it's just really a really lovely conversation every single time talking with her. So I'll put that in the comments below. And I'll also put all of the things that I mentioned in this podcast, including the book by Mark Wallin, the podcast from the Astrology Podcast with Aerin Fogal, and that YouTube video that I found with a little bit more information about the shadow of the moon. This conversation about generational trauma is definitely not over but I want to leave you with this. Just know that if there's anything in your life that you don't have an explanation to, take a closer look at that. See if it may be connected to something that isn't yours. We can store a lot of trauma in our bodies that might not even be ours either. We need to let that go. Let that be. I like to meditate on those things. If we can get quiet with ourself and understand maybe where our body is pointing at. If we can sit with that and understand the trauma of our physical body, the generational traumas that we maybe don't have an explanation for, if we can research and become more self aware, if we can become more self aware by researching and being with ourselves. And by asking questions and reading books and, and not just actually being self aware, but listening to the world around us and becoming more aware of the people around us. I think that that is a really amazing start. Thank you guys so much for chatting with me and being here. Thank you, thank you, thank you for supporting The Self Love Archives. It means the absolute world to me and I hope you're not mad that I'm switching to every other Sunday. I'm kind of disappointed in myself. I'm trying not to be, but I know it is for the better. But remember, that's not happening until next week, so I will be back here next week. On February 11th for a little bit more fun of an episode, we'll be talking about love languages and I'm sure some other really great things. I'm trying to convince Nick to come on my podcast. Do you think we could do it? But I will see you guys next week, same time, and then we will be going to every other week. But amazing stuff, good stuff coming. I'm so excited to chat with you next week, so I'll see you there, February 11th, 12 o'clock Eastern Time. Until then, I love you, have a wonderful, wonderful week, wonderful day, and I will talk to you soon. Bye.